642. How to Wage Peace, According to Tony Blinken

Freakonomics Radio • July 25, 2025 • Solo Episode

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The former secretary of state isn’t a flamethrower, but he certainly has strong opinions. In this wide-ranging conversation with Stephen Dubner, he gives them all: on Israel, Gaza, China, Iran, Russia, Biden, Trump — and the rest of the world.

 

 


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