Matt Goodwin - Rory Stewart & Alastair Campbell Aren't Interested in TRUTH

They talk about “truth,” but what they really want is control. In this explosive Heretics episode, Andrew Gold sits down with political scientist and author Matt Goodwin to expose how so-called moderates like Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell have become the new guardians of Britain’s polite censorship — deciding what can and can’t be said in public.

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Matt Goodwin — one of Britain’s most influential voices on class, culture, and populism — argues that Stewart and Campbell’s podcast, The Rest Is Politics, isn’t about restoring decency or reasoned debate. It’s about protecting the establishment from criticism. They champion “honesty,” but only when it fits their worldview. When it doesn’t, they smear, silence, or mock.

Andrew and Matt dig into why so many voters have grown cynical about this new “reasonable Left” — a class of politicians and pundits who claim moral authority while refusing to engage with working-class concerns about immigration, culture, free speech, and democracy.

Expect bold insights into:

Why Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell have become symbols of elite groupthink

How the “centrist” movement has turned into a shield for establishment power

Why Britons no longer trust mainstream voices who claim to speak for them

How social class and cultural arrogance divide modern Britain

And why the biggest threat to democracy isn’t populism — it’s hypocrisy

Matt explains how the real political battle isn’t Left vs Right anymore — it’s the people vs the elite, and how Britain’s so-called “moderates” are the last defenders of a broken system. Andrew pushes back, asking whether populist movements have gone too far, and together they explore what real intellectual honesty looks like in a world of moral posturing and selective outrage.

This is Heretics at its sharpest — cutting through the spin, the moral theatre, and the self-congratulation of Britain’s political class.

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